How are Hinduism and Sikhism related, considering they both originated in Punjab, India?

ਜਿਉ ਜਲ ਛੋਡਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਭਇਓ ਮੀਨਾ ॥

I serve the One Lord, and not any other. ||2||

One day, a desire welled up in my mind.

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Because in my previous life, I did not practice penance and intense meditation. ||1||

He who has highest Bhakti of Deva (God), just like his Deva, so for his Guru (teacher),

Meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. ||5||3||

What does it mean if you dream your dad died?

ਬਹੁਤੁ ਬਰਸ ਤਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਕਾਸੀ ॥

ਪੂਜਾ ਕਰਉ ਨ ਨਿਵਾਜ ਗੁਜਾਰਉ ॥

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Are there any penalties for bestiality in the USA and laws prohibiting it?

Sant Kabir was staunchly against cow slaughter.

Kabir is the child of Allah and of Ram: He is my Guru, He is my Pir.

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ is Brahm i.e the Brahman of vedanta but it gets interpreted as an all-pervading lord god.

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Shvetashvatara Upanishad (6.23)

Look within your heart, for there you will find both Karim and Ram;

ਪੂਰਬ ਜਨਮ ਹਉ ਤਪ ਕਾ ਹੀਨਾ ॥੧॥

What are some reasons why some men choose to live alone instead of getting married?

I ground up sandalwood, along with several fragrant oils.

We have searched the turaki Dharam (Turk's religion, Islam), these teachers throw many thunderbolts,

For him Dharma was beyond everything physical including the desire for heaven because was fully into the NIRGUN . The last verse shows that according to him the company of the enlightened Sadhus is heaven which is again a typical teaching of Sanatana Dharma.

Why do I sweat a great deal while exercising the same on some days and not so much on others?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

You are totally pervading and permeating in all.

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

What made you recently say to yourself, “Wait. Really?”

Let's look at the views of Sant Kabir

Kaashi and Magahar - I consider them the same.

Let’s look at the most used verse by McSikhs to show that Sikhs are neither Hindus nor Muslims.

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There the streams of light flow in all directions, few are the men who can cross to that shore!

He does not dwell at the Lord's Feet. ||3||

ਕਬੀਰ ਨਿਰਗੁਣ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਰੋਸੁ ॥

Why do flat Earthers exist? Why can’t I see the Sun at night? Is it because Earth is not flat?

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

I would go there, only if the Lord were not here. ||2||

Ramananda accepted disciples without discriminating against anyone by gender, class or caste and they included even people from humble origins like

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ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ

Now tell me, Lord, what will my condition be?

Wherever I go, I find water and stones.

ਮੁਆ ਕਬੀਰੁ ਰਮਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਰਾਮੈ ॥੫॥੧੫॥

Sadhna (a Muslim butcher) and

ਕਹੁ ਗੁਰ ਗਜ ਸਿਵ ਸਭੁ ਕੋ ਜਾਨੈ ॥

Again we see that the originator of this Sant Sampraday himself talks about Brahman even in Gurbani.

ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਮੈ ਬਲਿਹਾਰੀ ਤੋਰ ॥

As long as the mind is filled with the desire for heaven,

These morons know nothing, they wander about in ignorance,

Kabir, Ravidas and ultimately the NINE SIKH GURUS are a product of this very Sant Sampraday founded by Ramanandacharya!

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That Kabeer died chanting the Lord's Name. ||5||15||

ਮਰਤੀ ਬਾਰ ਮਗਹਰਿ ਉਠਿ ਆਇਆ ॥੨॥

From Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 1195

ਹਜ ਕਾਬੈ ਜਾਉ ਨ ਤੀਰਥ ਪੂਜਾ ॥

The Saadh Sangat, the Company of the Holy, is heaven. ||4||10||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines.

For many years, I practiced penance and intense meditation at Kaashi;

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

Ravidas (a chamar shoemaker)

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 326

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Now here in this verse

ਮਰਨੁ ਭਇਆ ਮਗਹਰ ਕੀ ਬਾਸੀ ॥੩॥

Guru Nanak (right) and Bhai Mardana (foreground) with Bhagat Kabir (left). This painting is found in the B-40 Janamsakhi, written and painted in 1733. The painting was made by Alam Chand Raj

Bhakti movement began in South (Tamil Nadu to be precise) and slowly spread to Northern parts of India. This movement was extremely popular because of its simple fundamentals which could be understood by even commonfolk. Vaishnavism, Shaivism etc… were already connecting with commonfolk from a long time and this Bhakti movement reinforced it by making the devotee feel a personal connection with the deity.

Ramanandacharya’s teachings were centered on pure and personal connection with the God Rama and didn’t believe in any kind of formal ritualism. He used the common vernacular language instead of Sanskrit so that everyone could understand.

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Recklessly they display boundless pride while explaining their own aims, they kill cows.

Hari is in the East, Allah is in the West.

I am a sacrifice to You, O my True Guru.

ਮੇਰਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਨ ਚਲੈ ਮਨੁ ਭਇਓ ਪੰਗੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

Here ਰਾਮੈ is Rama and not just lord. Kabir died chanting the name of Rama DESPITE him not finding any result of penances done in holy cities in his previous birth. Another example to show how much Kabir valued personal devotion to Rama in his own NIRGUN style.

ਤਜੀ ਲੇ ਬਨਾਰਸ ਮਤਿ ਭਈ ਥੋਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

How can they kill the mother, whose milk they drink like that of a wet nurse?

ਪੂਜਨ ਚਾਲੀ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਠਾਇ ॥

Where millions of Vishnus bow their heads, where millions of Brahmas are reading the Vedas,

There is a reason why I mention ROOTED and thus NOT implying that it belongs to one of the numerous sects in Sanatana Dharma like Shaivism, Vaishnavism, Shaktism, Smartism etc…

You have cut through all my confusion and doubt.

— Kabir, III.2, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

ਕੈਸੇ ਬੂਝੈ ਜਬ ਮੋਹਿਆ ਹੈ ਮਾਇਆ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਕਾਟੈ ਕੋਟਿ ਕਰਮ ॥੩॥੧॥

Ramanandacharya was a 14th-century Hindu Vaishnava devotional poet saint who amalgamated Advaita with Vaishnava Bhakti. He was the pioneer in validating NIRGUN and SAGUN Bhakti as parallel paths.

ਜਬ ਲਗੁ ਮਨਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੀ ਆਸ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers.

The views of Kabir are very much in parallel to the Advaita philosophy and it is obvious that as the disciple of Ramanandacharya he will carry forward with his chosen NIRGUN BHAKTI.

ਕਤ ਜਾਈਐ ਰੇ ਘਰ ਲਾਗੋ ਰੰਗੁ ॥

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹੁ ਕੀਆ ਵਖਾਨਾ ॥

ਗੁਰ ਪੀਰ ਮਿਲਿ ਖੁਦਿ ਖਸਮੁ ਪਛਾਨਾ ॥੫॥੩॥

For a superficial McSikh who is interested only in separation and not enlightenment the views of Kabir can be easily shown as a denouncement of Hindu practices.

Says Kabeer, the Guru and Ganaysha and Shiva all know

That God showed me the Guru, within my own mind. ||1||

The influence of Kabir is significant on Sikhism. The following Bani from Ang 1136 is attributed to GURU ARJAN DEV but if you observe at the end you can see that he was talking in the spirit of Sant Kabir.

I have searched through all the Vedas and the Puraanas.

One Universal Creator God. By The Grace Of The True Guru:

Without looking into one's heart, how can one reach paradise?

ਅਲਹ ਰਾਮ ਕੇ ਪਿੰਡੁ ਪਰਾਨ ॥੪॥

Raamaanand's Lord and Master is the All-pervading Lord God.

Now that my time to die has come, I have come to dwell at Magahar! ||3||

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Gauri / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 325

यस्य देवे परा भक्तिः यथा देवे तथा गुरौ । तस्यैते कथिता ह्यर्थाः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मनः प्रकाशन्ते महात्मन इति ।

Where should I go? My home is filled with bliss.

The divergence of Kabir’s views from Vedanta is seen in the fact that he fully opposed religious symbolism of ALL KINDS and not just IDOLS.

NOW…

Says Kabeer, unto whom should I tell this?

The Sant Sampraday of Sikh panth integrates the warrior spirit of the Nihangs and Khalsa, the service of Seva panth and the renunciation of Udasi/Nirmala saints.

Kabeer: O worthless mortal, do not lose the Naam, the Name of the Lord.

But we have actually seen how much Kabir is also rooted in the Vedantic concept of “supreme realization” but in a non-mainstream path.

Sikhism is a NIRGUN path descending from the Sant Sampraday of Ramanandacharya and traces its ideas to VEDANTA!

— Kabir, II.57, Translated by Rabindranath Tagore

I went to God's place, and worshipped Him there.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee, Panch-Padas:

ਸੋ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਬਤਾਇਓ ਗੁਰ ਮਨ ਹੀ ਮਾਹਿ ॥੧॥

How can people understand You, when they are entranced by Maya? ||1|| Pause ||

ੴ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਪ੍ਰਸਾਦਿ ॥

ਓਛੀ ਭਗਤਿ ਕੈਸੇ ਉਤਰਸਿ ਪਾਰੀ ॥੪॥

If Ram be within the image which you find upon your pilgrimage,

I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there. ||3||

Where spring, the lord of seasons reigneth, there the unstruck music sounds of itself,

Sain (a barber)

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਜੀ ਘਰੁ ੧

My consciousness does not go out wandering. My mind has become crippled. ||1|| Pause ||

ਕਹੁ ਕਬੀਰ ਇਹ ਕਹੀਐ ਕਾਹਿ ॥

ਘਸਿ ਚੰਦਨ ਚੋਆ ਬਹੁ ਸੁਗੰਧ ॥

Let’s see what Gurbani has about Ramanandacharya’s views.

We can understand that Kabir despite being in favor of formless worship was very much embedded in the Dharmik fold but always preached in the spirit of the transcendental nature of Brahman to the point that HE LOST THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN HINDU AND MUSLIM.

We can see that great saints like Kabir and Ravidas etc… descended from the Ramananda sampradaya which is still the largest ascetic order in India.

My body and breath of life belong to Allah - to Raam - the God of both. ||4||

CONCLUSION:

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ਊਹਾਂ ਤਉ ਜਾਈਐ ਜਉ ਈਹਾਂ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥

ਜਹਾ ਜਾਈਐ ਤਹ ਜਲ ਪਖਾਨ ॥

Raamaanand Jee, First House:

Says Kabeer, this is what I say:

Ramarchan Paddati gives more info about his teachings.

Bhagat Kabir ji / Raag Sriraag / / Guru Granth Sahib ji - Ang 92

Kabir (a weaver)

As mentioned above Guru Arjan Dev was talking from the perspective Sant Kabir whose views we have discussed much earlier here. We know that Sant Kabir continuing in the Ramanandi Sampradaya went further away from the mainstream ritualistic Hinduism and was journeying more towards a SEAMLESS Dharma.

Actually, this part of the Ang 326 is widely used by McSikhs to show that Sikhism considers Hindu pilgrimages as useless and thus drives home the point again that the “religion” has got NOTHING to do with Hinduism.

ਏਕ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰ ਲੇ ਰਿਦੈ ਨਮਸਕਾਰਉ ॥੩॥

To him who is high-minded, these teachings will be illuminating.

All the men and women of the world are His living forms.

ਗਉੜੀ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੀ ਪੰਚਪਦੇ ॥

Where millions of Shivas are lost in contemplation, where millions of Indras dwell in the sky,

ਕਾਸੀ ਮਗਹਰ ਸਮ ਬੀਚਾਰੀ ॥

From where did the word Maya come? Isn’t it a typical Vedantic concept discussed profoundly in Advaita? It definitely isn’t a concept pioneered by Kabir or even his teacher Ramanandacharya! It is ultimately from Sanatana Dharma!

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਤਿ ਬੈਕੁੰਠੈ ਆਹਿ ॥੪॥੧੦॥

ਤੂ ਪੂਰਿ ਰਹਿਓ ਹੈ ਸਭ ਸਮਾਨ ॥

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim.

The young and the old drink milk pudding, but these fools eat the cow's body.

With inadequate devotion, how can anyone swim across? ||4||

I am like a fish out of water,

ਏਕ ਦਿਵਸ ਮਨ ਭਈ ਉਮੰਗ ॥

ਨਾ ਹਮ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਨ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ॥

So in the same spirit Kabir finds pilgrimages to holy cities futile as his mind is fixated on Rama!

ਏਕੋ ਸੇਵੀ ਅਵਰੁ ਨ ਦੂਜਾ ॥੨॥

There is my Lord self-revealed, and the scent of sandal and flowers dwells in those deeps.

I wasted my whole life in the city of Shiva;

— Kabir, Ramaini 1, Translated by David Lorenzen

Sikhism is fundamentally rooted in BHAKTI tradition and thus ultimately in Sanatana Dharma. There is no doubt about it despite what modern McSikh acrobatics try to claim otherwise

then who is there to know what happens without?

There, where millions of Krishnas stand with hands folded,

ਬੇਦ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਸਭ ਦੇਖੇ ਜੋਇ ॥

Where the demi-gods and the munis are unnumbered, where millions of Saraswatis, goddess of music play the vina,

The Word of the Guru's Shabad eradicates the karma of millions of past actions. ||3||1||

ਤਬ ਲਗੁ ਹੋਇ ਨਹੀ ਚਰਨ ਨਿਵਾਸੁ ॥੩॥

ਜਿਨਿ ਸਕਲ ਬਿਕਲ ਭ੍ਰਮ ਕਾਟੇ ਮੋਰ ॥

ਸਗਲ ਜਨਮੁ ਸਿਵ ਪੁਰੀ ਗਵਾਇਆ ॥

ਅਬ ਕਹੁ ਰਾਮ ਕਵਨ ਗਤਿ ਮੋਰੀ ॥

He accepted even women (Sursuri and Padywati) as disciples. Bhagat Pipa and Dhanna were Rajput and Jat who were also his disciples.

At the time of my death, I moved to Magahar. ||2||

I left Benares - I had little common sense. ||1|| Pause ||

If God be within the mosque, then to whom does this world belong?

ਰਾਮਾਨੰਦ ਸੁਆਮੀ ਰਮਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ॥

Here ਨਿਰਗੁਣ is Nirgun and not just lord. This is just another example to show that Kabir himself continued in the NIRGUN BHAKTI path.